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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 23:40, 30 December 2015 [1].

Don't Stop the Music (Rihanna song)[edit]

Nominator(s): — Tom(T2ME) 17:25, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about... a 2007 song by Barbadian singer Rihanna. It is one of her most successful and signature singles of her career. I believe the article should be featured because it's pretty well written, well illustrated and sourced, the sources are well formatted and it's also quite cohesive (maybe the Music video section is kind of not-that-rich, however that's the only reliable source I could find). Cheers! — Tom(T2ME) 17:25, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - 3 dead links, 1 link is issue you should fix [2]. TheFame08 (talk) 11:16, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • TheFame08, Fixed them. The 110 reference from Promusicae works perfectly, despite the webcheck application showing it is dead. Thanks for the comment. — Tom(T2ME) 11:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delegates please take into consideration that the above Support is not even remotely credible checking the user's contribution and the fact that it passed an article as GA without even reviewing it. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 14:16, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Passing comment only
  • The line "It was written by Tawanna Dabney and Michael Jackson with its producers StarGate." is rather odd, considering the situation of Jackson at that time. It reads like he was there, writing the song with the team. This should be treated clearly. Same with the line in the first section. --Efe (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • During the writing of the article I haven't find a reliable source, he was absent from the writing sessions of the song, so putting just that he got his credit because of the line would be WP:OR. At the end of the day, he might be included there somehow, (the song was written circa late 2006-early 2007)
  • This has to be clarified, I'm afraid. From the section critical reception: "He felt that "Don't Stop the Music" is the best single that has a Jackson writing credit since his 1997 single "Blood on the Dance Floor".[19]" --Efe (talk) 14:52, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please exert effort to make this balanced, should we fail to uncover sources that says his is just a songwriting credit, not that he was there writing the song with them. I found this: Jackson is listed as a co-songwriter, but not Dibango. --Efe (talk) 14:55, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Efe I used your reference and added a note next to his name with a text that he only received a credit cause of the sample line. Is it better now? — Tom(T2ME) 16:18, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Tom, what was our basis on this line: "Jackson was not actively involved in the writing process of the song"? --Efe (talk) 12:25, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hey, I changed it to: Jackson received a writing credit as a result of using the line "Mama-say, mama-sa, ma-ma-ko-ssa", which can also be heard on his 1983 single "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'". It's more consistent with the reference. — Tom(T2ME) 12:29, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would be interesting if an information about how they came to sampling that line could be extracted from somewhere. The first paragraph in the first section is just a prose version of the album liner notes. --Efe (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I haven't find info about that. However, the lawsuit takes the spotlight in the section, so IMO it looks pretty good.

  • MOS requires uniformity, therefore I suggest that all references in release history be put on the first column, just like all other tables (certifications, weekly charts, etc). --Efe (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Will take care of it. — Tom(T2ME) 14:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Rihanna's vocal range spans from the low note of F♯3 to the high note of A4." This is subjective and should be generally avoided. An A4 might just be normal (or a bit low) for Mariah. --Efe (talk) 14:32, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not comparing vocal notes of particular singers, I am just saying which is the highest and which is the lowest song that Rihanna sings in the song. All my other featured articles have it and no-other reviewer seem to have problem with it. — Tom(T2ME) 14:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just stating both notes is enough, IMO. The word spans will tell the reader that she reached such notes in both extremes. By assigning "low note", its like telling that F#3 is already low. --Efe (talk) 14:49, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, I removed 'low' and 'high'. — Tom(T2ME) 14:54, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • "His lawyers brought the case in front of a Parisian court, demanding €500,000 in damages that Sony BMG, EMI and Warner Music should have paid until the issue was resolved." Per source, it says that the lawyers of Dibango demanded such amount AND barred the labels from profiting off the song until all issues are resolved. --Efe (talk) 14:46, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "he had approved the demand without contacting Dibango beforehand". Demand? probably a request from Rihanna's team? Also, the source says "allegedly" as in "allegedly without contacting the Cameroonian". --Efe (talk) 14:46, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hope looks better now. — Tom(T2ME) 14:54, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for now - I'm not convinced the prose is up to scratch. Sorry, I don't want to sound patronising, but I know you can write better than this. I think proseline is a problem; it ruins the flow by producing an unpleasant staccato to the text. I made a few edits to remove some redundant "also"s, which you might want to check. I suggest getting a copy edit from an editor new to the article who is not a fan. This should create more of an encyclopedic tone. Sorry again, and please don't shoot the messenger. Graham Beards (talk) 22:01, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Graham Beards Thanks for the input. No worries, not gonna shoot anyone ;). I am gonna try to find someone to re-check the prose and when he/she does I would like your updates. Cheers! — Tom(T2ME) 11:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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