Talk:Scale of harmonics

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knotted positions[edit]

"The scale of harmonics is a musical scale based on the knotted postions [sic] of the natural harmonics existing on a string." What does "knotted" mean here? I don't see any knots in the strings in the photo. Does it mean knots as dot marks, like the defects in wood? Is it a misspelling of nodes, as in nodes and anti-nodes of vibration? -- Another Stickler (talk) 11:26, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Last sentence[edit]

I truly don't understand the last sentence:- "The scale is also present on the Moodswinger. Although this functions quite differently than a Guqin, oddly enough the scale occurs on this instrument while it is not played in a just intonation tuning but a regular equal temperament."

'This', in the second sentence, might refer to either of the instruments mentioned, or even both successively. And what is the purpose of 'while' in the sentence - does it really mean at the same time as? possibly the meaning is 'although... but in'. I'd edit it but I don't know what the information the writer is trying to convey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.238.31.187 (talk) 07:17, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is the purpose of this aricle?[edit]

What is the purpose of this article? It starts out like it's going to define a musical scale that by its name should be equivalent to a harmonic series, and so would be redundant with that main article. It instead describes three instruments: the guqin with a "guqin scale" in which the "seventh harmonic is left out", the đàn bầu that includes the "first seven overtones", and the moodswinger that "is...played in...a regular equal temperament". Three examples that disagree is not a good way to define something by example. It goes on to invoke the undefined term "natural overtone scale" (overtone is not synonymous with harmonic) and claims without citation that this was an inspiration to Harry Partch. This whole article reads like a mishmash of unsound associations and leaves the reader wondering what the subject is, let alone how the subject is defined. If I were bolder, I would nominate it for deletion. -- Another Stickler (talk) 21:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Harmonic series: Nodes[edit]

The harmonic series article doesn't mention anything about the dotted system on the Guqin. It could be merged, but this is about the overlap in several scales present on totally different instruments from other areas with some anomalies in each system as far as I can see. In fundament they all use the scale of harmonics but leave a few of the nodes out, depending how the instrument is constructed or how it is played. (the 1/7th doesn't match with the other nodes properly, which clears out its logical that one is left out in the Guqin.) The Moodswinger is tuned as a regular 12 TET but the rod position is following the scale of harmonics. That instrument therefore uses two scaling systems, but in a different way for a different purpose. 83.87.170.234 (talk) 20:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's Physical scale which is the fundament for several musical scales with small adaptations. I don't know how the scale of the Guqin is called. Is there a name for that one, since that's the oldest one of all?83.87.170.234 (talk) 20:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]