Talk:Jack Torrance

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Revision[edit]

I felt the article was more centered on the film version than the novel so I revised it so it featured both of them and added some pictures. I think this improves the main article.--CyberGhostface 17:12, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Torrance in the film[edit]

I wish people would stop asserting that Jack Nicholson portrayed Torrance as "insane from the get-go." For some reason people seem to see Stephen King's word as law. The very first sentence of the "plot" section in the wikipedia article for The Shining describes Jack Torrance as "temperamental." That's exactly how Nicholson portrayed him up until "all work and no play...", simply as on the edge. Perhaps there weren't enough scenes with Wendy, Jack, and Danny together (because there's more focus placed on their individual experiences in the hotel) but this doesn't suggest that Jack Nicholson played the character as "insane." There's simply more scenes of his short temper.--137.238.149.151 (talk) 16:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jack's Death[edit]

I'm pretty sure that Jack killed himself by gathering ahold of himself and beating himself over the head with the mallet. I think then that the hotel took over him and continued to try to pursue Danny until Danny, Wendy, and Dick escaped as it blew up. We should differentiate between Jack's own will, and those of the hotel taking over him.

I haven't read the book in a while, but I don't recall that being the cause of his death.--CyberGhostface 00:55, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His death was definitely NOT due to suicide. He was either dead or near dead -and in possession of his senses once more -as the boiler in the Hotel exploded. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thanos777 (talk • contribs) 06:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The guy's half right, yes Jack Torrance does indeed smash himself with the mallet and that does kill him, or his soul. From then on it's the Overlook hotel that tear-asses to the hotel basement before it explodes.--137.238.149.151 (talk) 05:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC) In that case, then in the "In the Novel" section, shouldn't the part saying he "redeems" himself be changed to something more accurate? At that point in the book, King goes really far to let you know it is "not Jack" even going as far as to refer to him as "it"--71.168.108.32 (talk) 23:40, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's a scene when Jack momentarily breaks free to try and save his son, though. That's what the redemption part refers to, not blowing up the hotel--CyberGhostface (talk) 00:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Absorbed[edit]

"The film ends with an old photograph of the hotel that has Jack in it - Jack has been ultimately absorbed into the hotel."
I don't think the hotel 'absorbed' Jack, Jack was at that photograph all along. It is referenced numerous times in the movie that Jack was the caretaker of the hotel years ago. - Face 16:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor Sleep[edit]

It's original research to suggest that Jack is 'stuck' at the hotel given that there's nothing in the novel that states that. Also consider how the other ghosts (Derwent, the woman in Room 217) were able to follow Danny home. It's more likely that he was just watching over Danny at a time of need. --CyberGhostface (talk) 00:46, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]