Talk:Jack McGurn

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According to the sources, he was born in New York, and also Chicago. . Became famous for avenging the death of two different fathers on two entirely distinct rival gangs. --GwydionM 19:29, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sifakis' Mafia Encyclopedia has his name James DeMota, not Vince Gibaldi. Trekphiler 15:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Merge[edit]

  • Support Merge Same man and the title of the page to be moved contains an extraneous quotation mark after "McGurn".
  • Merge Complete I merged the article "Jack 'Machine Gun' McGurn" with the current article and tried to make it flow. Only added a sentence or two from the other article into this one and put a redirect on the other one.--Anon 01:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

GIBALDI[edit]

According to a book I'm presently reading; The Mafia: The First 100 Years; McGurn was born in New York. His father was killed during the war between Frankie Yale's Black Hand Gang and Wild Bill Lovett's White Hand Gang.

GIBALDI's father, who was only loosely involved with the rackets, was killed due to mistaken identity with Willie Alteri. GIBALDI came to the attention of Frankie Yale after he started killing both their mutal enemies.

After a botched attempt on Lovett, Yale decided to send him to his former protege Al Capone where he took up the moniker Jack McGurn.

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A note on sources[edit]

McGurn's life has been greatly mythologized and his biography is often distorted. The two sources with the best documented information that I have found are "My Al Capone Museum" by Mario Gomez (http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id40.htm) and "The True and Complete Story of 'Machine Gun' Jack McGurn" by Amanda Jayne Parr, which is available on Google Books for the McGurn's life before his association with Capone in 1923. These two sources disagree as to whether the father that was assassinated in 1923 was McGurn's father or stepfather, his occupation, and which gang, Genna or Black Hand, was responsible for the killing. Stepfather is the more plausible explanation. Neither source maintains that both his father and his stepfather were killed. What is clear though is that McGurn was boxing in Chicago beginning at the age of sixteen (1921) which rules out any significant involvement with Frankie Yale in his original home of New York. The confusion is likely caused by the name of one of McGurn's father's killers, Willie "Two Knives" Altierri, who McGurn killed a few months later. A gangster by this name also worked for Frankie Yale. Ghosts&empties (talk)

Possible copyvio[edit]

The St. Valentine's Day Massacre section seems to have a "professional" writing style and tone, and may be copied verbatim from an unknown source. Senator2029 (talk) 12:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Date of assassinaion[edit]

According to Gangsters encyclopedia by Michael Newton, McGurn was assassinated on 14 February 1936. --89.177.43.88 (talk) 15:04, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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