Talk:City of Brussels/Archive 1

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What's Laeken?

Does anyone know what Bruxelles Laeken is? I have an antique silver spoon that says Bruxelles Laeken Notre Dame on the handle.

Laeken is a part of the City of Brussels municipality, in the north of Brussels. There's a church in Laeken called 'Notre Dame'. Also see the external links The Notre Dame Church of Laken and l'église Notre-Dame de Laeken (photo) --David Edgar 12:03, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't agree with the statement that the city of Brussels is not the capital of Belgium. When I was working at the town hall, I was always tols to spell "ville de Bruxelles", dropping the first capital. So the Belgian Constitution mention with "ville" without first cap is merely a linguistic thing referring indeed to the City of Brussels, not the region. Also, to my knowledge, all federal ministers' offices are on the territory of the City. Not to mention that the City bought the former municipality of Laeken in 1921 officially because that is where the king resides; which wouldn't be a valid argument if the idea of the Constitution was that Brussels also covers surrounding municipalities in a way or another. Olivert1977 15:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Correct, the constitution speaks of stad Brussel or ville de Bruxelles. Also Art. 166 of the Constitution has nothing to do with Brussels as the capital at large, it simply creates a Brussels agglomeration of which the capital is but a part. The claim that Brussels at large is the capital is a minority view and should be changed that way--- fdewaele
I don't think it is a minority view. Look at all the Wikipedias that have articles for each entity, which one points to Brussels-City as the capital? Only the Dutch Wikipedia has it according to the constitution, and only since the 30th of december 2005. If it were a minority imposing their view that greater Brussels is the capital, then you wouldn't have a majority of references not mentioning the City of Brussels as the capital. ---moyogo 07:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
depends on who edited it all... or on what source they based their edits on... it's a common mistake to translate or copy from Wikipedia to Wikipedia and trnasfer errors that way as well... BTW, the official website of the city [1] states that the City of Brussels is the capital--- fdewaele, 9 June 2006 10:00 CET
Actually the Luxemburgish Wikipedia had the legal capital too. ---moyogo 08:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm not denying the official capital is Brussels, it's totally normal for representatives to push that in their offices. What's I'm saying is that it's probably not a minority that doesn't know, but the majority. --moyogo 08:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Also, even if this is legally an error, it is not in most people's conceptions of things. Look at Encarta: Its capital and largest city is Brussels or [2]: Brussels (French Bruxelles), city in central Belgium, capital and largest city of the country - They don't mention Brussels-City. I'm not saying we should just do the same, but we should mention all point of views, legal and that not correct according to the legal terms. ---moyogo 08:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree that all views should be included but the legally correct view should have precedence as an encyclopedia should aim to be correct. As a further explanation, the divergent general views and misconceptions should be added by way of a footnote or explanatory note in the text. --- fdewaele, 9 June 2006 11:00 CET

Move? 2009

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The result of the proposal was move to Brussels (municipality)

  • City of Brussels → Brussels City — The "city" in the name "ville/stad" has no official meaning. It's just a name. Belgian law doesn't recognise "cities" or "villes/steden". From my reading, "city of" is only used in English for cities which have "city of X" as their official name. Since that's not the case here, "City of Brussels" is a wrong translation and it should be "Brussels City" — Gronky (talk) 22:19, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
    • If the proper name of the city is just "Brussels" (i.e. the same as the Brussels region which encompasses it), then why not move it to Brussels (municipality)? I think that "ville" and "stad" just translate to "municipality" anyway. If "City" isn't part of the official name, then "Brussels City" is just as misleading as City of Brussels. For example, no one says Paris City, we just say Paris.--Aervanath (talk) 05:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
  • I agree that "Brussels City" is a poor choice for the article title. That title would make it seem similar to, for example, Panama City, Guatemala City or Oklahoma City, which is misleading. A better title would be Brussels (city), or Brussels (municipality), as suggested by User:Aervanath above. -GTBacchus(talk) 18:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
    • Either of those would be fine with me as well. In fact, the "(city)" disambiguator would probably be better just because it's more concise.--Aervanath (talk) 03:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
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Move? 2010

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The result of the move request was: page moved. This reverses the move made last year. Both discussions were not large, but this nomination addressed some of the concerns that were raised in the last discussion that resulted in the move. About the only issue here was the need for using municipality as a dab and I don't see that since cities are generally in a class of settlements call municipalities. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


Brussels (municipality) → City of Brussels — Relisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

The English language version of the official website says "City of Brussels." Ville de Bruxelles and Stad Brussel (the official names used in the two official languages) both translate to "City of Brussels." I really don't see why on earth this wouldn't be a straightforward no-brainer? SSJ t 22:57, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment I strongly disagree with the suggestion that this article should be the one that's called just "Brussels." We have had lengthy discussions on this in the past, boiling down to the conclusion that today, the Brussels Region is what people and the media in most instances actually mean when they say "Brussels." - SSJ t 01:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Proposed alternative: City of Brussels (municipality) because I think [1] "City of Brussels" can be confused with the city as a whole (-> Brussels) while this article is about the municipality (one of 19 in the Region) and [2] "Brussels (municipality)" doesn't contain city while this is in the official name stad/ville. Anyway, it's just an idea; all possibilities (current title, "City of Brussels", ...) are good. SPQRobin (talk) 23:40, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Comment There is no municipality in Belgium called "Brussels". "City of Brussels" is the name of the municipality. It's as simple as that, and I think the name of this article should reflect that fact. There is no other geographical area called City of Brussels. The article of the Brussels-Capital Region (technically an urban area, but de facto a continuous city), is named just "Brussels", because when people say "Brussels", they mean the region in most cases. There is no reason why the decision regarding the naming of the other article should interfere with the naming of this article IMO. The issue is well explained in the introductions of both articles: that avoids confusion. - SSJ t 21:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
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Musulman's 35% in the city.

Musulman 35% in the city. Why Steals this information?DeHoopAntoin (talk) 17:36, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

"City of Brussels"

The recurring use of the term "City of Brussels" in this article and some comments on this talk page seem to indicate that this is the translation of the official name of the city. It is not. The official name is simply "Brussel" in Dutch and "Bruxelles" in French. Some Belgian cities (like Brussels) prefere to use "Stad" or "Ville" in their communication, but this does not reflect an official designation. A complete list of official names of Belgian cities and municipalities can be found here. — 37 (talk) 03:28, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia rule regarding the first sentence of the lead

“The first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what, or who, the subject is. It should be in plain English. Be wary of cluttering the first sentence with a long parenthesis containing alternative spellings, pronunciations, etc., which can make the sentence difficult to actually read; this information can be placed elsewhere.”

A note will do just as well.--Lubiesque (talk) 01:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

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