Talk:Cave of Swallows

A fact from Cave of Swallows appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 April 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Cave of Swallows is so large and wide that it is possible to navigate a hot air balloon through the cave with ease?

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I would add a photo, but I cant find find one not held by copyright... --- ÅñôñÿMôús ^{Dîššíd3nt} 06:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been attempting to upload a photo onto Wikimedia Commons for use in this article. My browser doesn't indicate progress, but tcpdump shows traffic to the server. We'll see if anything has happened by the morning.Stubb 02:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The upload just took an awfully long time. I'll add another photo looking up from the bottom of the cave over the weekend. This was my first attempt at adding a photo; feedback would be appreciated.Stubb 10:54, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How do you get back up after jumping in? 70.82.94.104 19:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add a photo from one of my trips to the cave. But first I need to figure out how to do so. I'm extremely new to editing Wikipedia articles. Stubb 02:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been unable to get the second author of the AMCS bulletin to appear in the footnotes. Any help in determining what I missed would be very much appreciated.Stubb 02:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic! You have an image? Great. Ok. Please see Wikipedia:Images and Help:Images and other uploaded files for help on inserting an image. I'll fix the ref problems. Yours, —ÅñôñÿMôús _{Dîššíd3nt} 11:18, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I dont see what is wrong with your notes. Please explain where you were refering to. Thanks, —ÅñôñÿMôús _{Dîššíd3nt} 11:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the links on uploading photos. I have several photos of Golondrinas from caving trips to the area and will try uploading one this evening. As for the citation problem, Caves of the Inter-American Highway should list two authors: William H. Russell and Terry W. Raines. Due to some unknown mistake on my part, Terry W. Raines doesn't appear in the result. Does anything look obviously incorrect to you? Thanks in advance for your help. Stubb 14:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thats great. I hope that you wont have too much trouble implanting those, but, if you do, please dont hesistate to ask for help =]. Thanks, —ÅñôñÿMôús _{Dîššíd3nt} 07:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out that there's an orphaned page on this cave: Golondrinas. What's the typical policy if two pages have different names but describe the same thing? Should the other page simply redirect to this one?Stubb 15:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and it now does. The policy is to judge each on its merits and then merge, redirect or delete as appropriate. (I fixed your ref problem too) Yomangani ^talk 16:48, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The phrase "and the narrow continuation which down up to the 512 m depth may..." makes no sense. I would correct it but I am not sure if it starts at 512m and goes down, or goes down to 512m, or something else... 17:44, 7 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.65.73.107 (talk)

I've made a number of corrections to the page an added a photo and some references. I also corrected the text about the crevice, which made it sound like it was 512 m deep...it just extends the cave down that far (actually to -515, based on newer laser survey). I also think the page should be renamed to the proper spanish name--it is the proper name of the pit.Dave Bunnell (talk) 17:45, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. At one time this article was "Sotano de las Golondrinas" - the correct name, but someone, without discussing it here, renamed it Cave of the Swallows. Cavers knew about it for many years and respected the Spanish name. More recently some Americans translated its name into English and began to call it Cave of the Swallows. I think it should be moved back. Senor Cuete (talk) 17:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The pit was not discovered in 1966. Evans and crew deserve credit for being the first crew to descend (in '67, IIRC), but the thing was known by the locals for hundreds for thousands of years. There's even a story that some French crew may have been the first white guys (FWIW) to see it.

Also, it's not anywhere near the deepest 'cave' in NA or the world. It's nearly the deepest PIT on the planet. Many caves are several times deeper.

4.230.153.89 08:17, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it's number 17 on Caver Bob's list of deep pits.Senor Cuete (talk) 04:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)Senor Cuete[reply]

Measurement[edit]

You know, we're in America, for Christ's sake! This isn't France. All our dimensions should be in feet and miles, etc. For the hand-wringing bedwetting liberal revisionsists, we can put meters and kilograms in parentheses. It shouldn't be the other way around!12.89.124.50 (talk) 17:27, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Who is "we"? What about all non-North Americans who read English but are located elsewhere (say, New Zealand) that use the metric system? This is a SCIENTIFIC article, and we use the metric system of measurement. And as one Frenchman said, "now go away before I taunt you a second time-a!" 50.111.36.238 (talk) 18:24, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]