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In other articles for dictators like Hitler and Mussolini, the first sentence states "X was a dictator of _____ from _ to _". They do not use the official title for these leaders, like Fuhrer or Duce, since these titles are self-appointed and are specific, but not as informative as dictator when it comes to describing the absolute authority they held. Kim is indisputably a dictator with absolute power of his country, so shouldn't we also refer to him as a dictator in the first sentence? I think we should. Woozybydefault (talk) 18:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We have discussed this before. He is not "indisputably a dictator". Some scholars question how much power he actually has.--Jack Upland (talk) 23:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't encourage it, no. Better to use specific language regarding concentration of power or the like. JArthur1984 (talk) 00:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He is literally a communist dictator. Why would that not be mentioned. DanRayy (talk) 14:14, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On arguments about "literally", see the comment and link by Jack Upland above. More broadly, we already have plenty of characterizations which address concentration of power in the lead. We have "supreme leader," "rules" North Korea, "totalitarian", etc. JArthur1984 (talk) 14:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kim is a dictator. It's absurd that this article tries to say otherwise, and also has "Respected Comrade" in the infobox. DocZach (talk) 04:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The avoidance is not specific to this article; it's a policy of careful tip-toeing called MOS:LABEL. Also, "Respected Comrade" is Kim Jong Un's official title. It's not the article or an editor literally calling him a respectable comrade. It's like how in Canada we call our senators "The Honourable". Yue🌙 06:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then why doesn't Queen Elizabeth II's article say "Her Majesty", or any of the Supreme Court Justices have "His Honor" or "Her Honor?" DocZach (talk) 08:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Elizabeth II's article does say "Head of the Commonwealth" in the same spot in the infobox. Toughpigs (talk) 23:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think Wikipedia spends too much time with the various titles bestowed on North Korean leaders, more so than the media of North Korea does, I believe.--Jack Upland (talk) 01:39, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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